TwinTurbo.NET: Nissan 300ZX forum - We are both correct in our statements:
People Seeking Info
 
   


     
Subject We are both correct in our statements:
     
Posted by Gordo 93TT Daytona on April 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM
  This message has been viewed 221 times.
     
In Reply To A battery cannot ground to concrete, there is an internal posted by Terayonneo on April 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM
     
Message Older style batteries using porous rubber cases can ground to concrete; and you are correct about your theory of temperature differences, although I am not sure there are any measurable affect on our car batteries unless the temps are dramatically different.

From the website: BatteryFAQ.Org - Will storing batteries on a concrete floor will discharge them?

"All lead-acid batteries will naturally self-discharge which can result in loss of capacity from sulfation. The rate of internal self-discharge is most influenced by the temperature of the battery's electrolyte and the chemistry of the plates. Heat speeds up this self-discharge, so do not store batteries in a hot garage or warehouse. This internal self-discharge is often mistaken for concrete floor causing the battery to drain. Some experts believe that storing batteries on a colder surface might actually slow down the self-discharge (leakage) rate because the floor acts as a heat sink and cools the battery.

Large differences in temperature could cause electrolyte stratification within very large batteries (>250 AH) which could accelerate its internal "leakage" or self-discharge if the battery is sitting on an extremely cold concrete, stone or steel floor in a warm room, boat or submarine.

Stirrers or bubblers are often used on these types of large batteries to keep the electrolyte from stratifying. Undercharging will also cause electrolyte stratification, which can also result in loss of capacity from sulfation.

My point about batteries discharging on a concrete floor was specific to the older style batteries using porous rubber casings: These battery cases were made of porous materials, so storing batteries on concrete floor would accelerate their natural self-discharge due to external leakage. Modern battery cases are made of polypropylene or hard rubber and are better sealed and insulated.

We both agree, however, that external leakage-causing discharge is no longer a problem storing batteries on concrete floors, provided the top of the battery is clean and free from wet or dried electrolyte.

_________________________________________________



     
Follow Ups  
     
Post a
Followup

You cannot reply to this message because you are not logged in.